Ayurveda & Jyotish: How Your Birth Chart Reveals Your Health & Life Purpose

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Ayurveda & Jyotish: How Your Birth Chart Reveals Your Health & Life Purpose
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🌟 Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Ayurveda
01:46 Josh’s Spiritual Path: From Punk Rocker to Jyotish Astrologer
04:40 Layering Vedic Sciences for holistic insights
06:12 Jyotish (Vedic Sidereal Astrology) vs. Western (Tropical Astrology)
12:42 Astrology and Relationships: Compatibility Insights
16:13 Dharma – taking right action in the moment
19:46 Meaning of Multiple Planets in the 1st house
21:39 Avoiding Karmic Entanglements with Jyotish Astrology
23:54 Medical Astrology for Karmic Remedies
28:18 The Story of Rahu and Ketu
31:27 Exploring Past Life Karmas
32:13 Navigating Personal Astrology
33:33 The Impact of Dashas on Compatibility
35:41 The Role of Saturn in Life Lessons
38:19 Analyzing David Bowie’s Chart
51:58 Consultation with Josh Whitely

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Josh Whiteley, L.Ac., CAP is a Registered Nurse (RN), Licensed Acupuncturist (L.Ac.), and Ayurvedic and Jyotish practitioner based in Tucson, Arizona. He has spent over 20 years immersed in the Vedic sciences, alongside maintaining a private practice focused on integrative acupuncture and East Asian medicine. His formal studies include training in Ayurveda and Jyotish with respected teachers such as Dr. Vasant Lad, Dr. GG Gangadharan, Hari Pallatheri, Komilla Sutton, and Ernst Wilhelm. Josh has a particular interest in integrating Vedic astrology with medical and herbal practice to support more precise and effective patient care

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📜 Full Transcript

Lois (0:00)

Namaste and welcome to Essential Ayurveda Talks.

I am returning to the recording studio after a two month Panchakarma break. I have renewed gratitude for the ancient science of Ayurveda and profound respect for the teachers, healers and knowledge keepers who came before us. As we step into this space, let’s receive the wisdom with our open hearts. Today I’m excited to welcome Josh Whiteley to the show.

Josh is a Jyotish astrologer, Ayurvedic practitioner, registered nurse, and a licensed acupuncturist. He spent over 20 years immersed in the Vedic sciences while running a private practice in integrative acupuncture and Chinese herbal medicine. Like the ancient Indian vaidyas who drew from many strands of Vedic knowledge, Josh weaves Jyotish with his medical and herbal expertise. This combination offers a unique way of seeing and helping his clients.

His TikTok account rocks. It’s creative, it’s fun, it’s full of fascinating insights on Jyotish. Everyone should check that out, give him a follow. I was so impressed with it that I had him do a reading for me, which was amazing. So I highly recommend everyone get a reading and I’m thrilled to have him here today to share his story. Welcome, Josh.

Josh Whiteley (01:20)

Thank you so much, I’m happy to be here.

Lois (01:21)

So to get started, we both went to the Ayurvedic Institute to study Ayurveda, but at different times.

We’ve both lived in Boulder at different times. I went there to study yoga. You went there to study acupuncture. What brought you here to Ayurveda and Jyotish and all the rest of this beautiful path that you’ve had?

Josh Whiteley (01:45)

Well, a lot of it started, I think, for many of us with yoga. Yoga seems to be such a great entryway, and when I was in my early 20s, I randomly stumbled across yoga and thought it seemed interesting. previous to that, I was really much more of an artist and musician. I grew up in, I love this story, but I grew up as a punk rocker. So I always had the spiky hair cut. I was a little bit of a rebel in a sense, you know.

And I was also open-minded though, so I found yoga and I just found it so fascinating and I started taking some classes regularly and then just have these very profound experiences that I’m sure a lot of us have had who’ve done yoga where I just found myself kind of crying even one practice and just as this like release was happening and I said, you know, there’s something to this. It’s really interesting. And then, through yoga, of course, I got exposed to Ayurveda. And the first book I ever saw was from

Dr. Vasant Lad, who’s an Ayurvedic physician who lives in the U S he’s from India originally. And I was so enamored by this book and the creativity, also the simplicity and complexity of Ayurveda. And so I read the, his book, cover to cover over and over and over, and I couldn’t put it down and I found it so interesting. The science of life, his little red book, the grandfather book of Ayurveda in the West, you know, it’s a great book.

Lois (02:55)

Which, which book was that? Do you remember the name of it? ⁓ Yeah. I love that book. I have a well-worn copy of that.

Josh Whiteley (03:06)

Yeah, yeah, it’s a great one. Still have it. ⁓ So anyway, I just kept diving a little bit deeper and a little bit deeper. And then I was at that point where it time to make some decisions about work life. And I knew I wanted to dive headfirst into Ayurveda. So I went to Albuquerque and sat in on some classes. I was looking at a few of the schools and, I sat with Dr. Lad and immediately felt this resonance with him and just knew how could I go anywhere else other than here? And I have that opportunity and the time and not too many you know, obligations outside of life. So I moved to Albuquerque and started studying Ayurveda more deeply. And just, that was the, the initial get-go of it. And it’s just kind of gone from there. And then through that, found Jyotish, you know, my first reading was at the Institute. I never really thought I would practice Jyotish. I found it really interesting and enjoyed my reading. And it was probably maybe even eight, 10 years later, before I finally just had this epiphany where I said, I want to understand this and learn this science too.

And as we know in the Vedic sciences, they say you should know at least a little bit about all the various philosophies like yoga, Ayurveda and Jyotish, and Vastu, and all these, the Vedic sciences, right? So, I dipped my toes around it a little bit, but I just decided it was time to dive deep. And I’ve been a chronic obsessed student ever since.

Lois (04:19)

Can you expand on that a little bit more? Because that’s really a foreign concept. Like in the West, we have doctors and they specialize. You could have an ear, nose, and throat. You go to a surgeon. But in Ayurveda, like you said, they’re having you learn tons of different stuff. Can you speak a little bit about how you layer all that on your practice? Or how it informs your practice, I guess?

Josh Whiteley (04:39)

Yeah, sure. ⁓

It does in a lot of ways. And sometimes I think it’s a little bit like you just decide where you’re going to dive in the river at, it’s almost overwhelming if you tried to take it from the get go and say, OK, we’re going to understand astrological sciences and we’re going to understand medical sciences. We’re going to understand body movement exercises and things like that. It’s very overwhelming. But as you sort of get some of the initial understanding of the relationship of the microcosm and macrocosm principles which exist in all of these sciences, you can start to put the pieces together. If you have a, you know, understanding of the doshas, right, you understand that Pitta is more fiery in nature and tends to be more warming and heating. You can understand how that’s going to affect your astrology chart, right? So if you have a very strong Pitta planet, like Mars affecting your chart, you’re going to have very Mars-based conditions are going to be more prevalent, right? So it informs that. You can inform it, use it to inform your housing situation. So with Vastu or Vedic Feng Shui.

If you have an inhibited southern direction, which is connected with Mars, you’re going to have some issues with maybe some pitta issues in the body as well or in the mind. So these things all tie together. And there’s only so much time and we can only really master so many things, but you should have at least a rounded understanding of all these various sciences according to the Rishi’s and the, Vaidyas And it’s very important.

Lois (05:57)

Yeah. Yeah, it’s a holistic view of the world, of the macrocosm and the microcosm, I guess you could say, right?

Josh Whiteley (06:05)

Yep, absolutely, absolutely.

Lois (06:07)

⁓ So I guess I don’t even know how many people who are listening to this know what Jyotish is. So it is a type of astrology from India. When we say astrology in the West, most people think of sun signs. Maybe you can elaborate on the difference between the two.

Josh Whiteley (06:26)

Sure, sure. Yeah, this is probably the most common question that people ask because many of us in the West know about, Western astrology and usually our sun sign, which month we are born in and how that relates. There’s some big picture differences and there’s some smaller differences on the big picture. We’re looking at kind of similar things, right? We’re looking at a person’s life and the trajectory that they’re on from a technical standpoint, Vedic astrology or Jyotish uses the sidereal zodiac system.

And what this means is that we’re looking at the sky as a fixed system. So as the Earth moves through space and as we have this slight warble that happens over time too, we’re using the sky as a fixed map of how we’re deciding which constellations are which and which planets are transiting where. The Western zodiac, which is also known as the tropical zodiac, is using the spring equinox to determine this.

So this is very nerdy stuff, but… zero degrees of areas will represent the spring equinox. So this will actually change, ⁓ you know, from year to year. And over the course of, you know, the last thousands of years where the difference is about 23 or so degrees. So you may find that your planets or your signs in your Western chart are going to be slightly different than your Vedic chart, ⁓ probably 75 % of the time, actually. So if you’re, say, a Leo rising ⁓ in the Western system, you’re probably going to be a Cancer rising more than likely in the Vedic system.

Some of this is just, you know, calculation things and, and, and that I’m to be looking at that you don’t have to overthink, but that’s the technical difference. ⁓ I also always say when you get one of those star map apps on your phone, which are really fun to use on the sky, when you hold those up and you look at, say the sign of cancer, like right now, Jupiter in the Vedic system is in the sign of cancer. It’s going to show Jupiter in cancer. So that’s what I mean by the, where we’re using the sky as a fixed map system.

Whereas in the western system, it’s going to be in a different sign, right? So that’s the big picture kind of difference. Day-to-day things, western astrology, I’m not an expert in western astrology, but my understanding is that what we’re really looking at in that system is going to be a lot to do with personality types, ⁓ you how you can use this as a path for self-reflection, which are all great things and very important too.

In Vedic astrology, they’re often much more interested in karma, right? So this is the idea of our bonds that we have to this world and to this existence and what we’re trying to complete. So Jyotish to me is a much more functional system. And when you, when I do readings with people, especially from India or Indian Americans, they’re usually much more like, when am I getting this job? When am I getting married? You know, when am going to be rich? You know, should I move? Yes or no. There’s, there’s a lot more practicality about it in a sense, because they’re saying, what are the Karmas that are presenting to me right now and how do I work with them and get through them? My perception, I should say, at least of Western astrology is that there’s a lot of self-reflection, a lot of psychology, a lot of understanding who you are. And in the Jyotish system, that is there too, but it seems to play, I think, a bit less important of a role. Those are probably the major side-by-side differences. The charts are going to, look a little bit different to how they’re laid out.

⁓ I have also found in my experience too, when you read a Vedic astrology chart and somebody knows their Western chart really well, they often will reflect very similar ideas. They just come from a slightly different angle. So ultimately, you know, we may be getting sort of at the same thing depending on the chart, just from, you know, slightly different lens or viewpoint.

Lois (09:47)

So when you’re talking about like technically how they map out what your birth sign is. In Western astrology, I was born Leo, but if I look at my sun sign today, now I’m a Virgo because I was on the cusp. So is this what you’re saying? How it’s not fixed in Western, it’s shifting. Does that make sense or?

Josh Whiteley (10:06)

Yeah, so your planet may literally change signs.

Josh Whiteley (10:11)

Your birth chart is a fixed chart, no matter, in both systems. So if your sun is in cancer, it’s in cancer. But you have the transits. So like the sun will be transiting throughout the year, and it’ll go through each of the signs. So that’s when we look at, like when we’re in cancer season or Scorpio season, right? That’s what we’re looking at, the placement of where that sun has moved.

Lois (10:14)

So I guess my question is, “Is it more accurate?” Does the Jyotish give a more accurate reading because it’s more fixed, or not?

Josh Whiteley (10:42)

This is where we go into the politics of astrology.

Lois (10:43)

Let’s go there!

Josh Whiteley (10:43)

So my personal opinion is that yes, I found much better accuracy with Vedic astrology. Many people are going to not like hearing that. I also have deep respect for Western astrologers too. And I think that the Jyotish system is, we often kind of view these things as more esoteric sciences and they are.

Josh Whiteley (11:09)

But Jyotish is very mathematical. There’s divisional charts. There’s all these layers to the charts that are very fixed. And this is what I mean by like Jyotishis or Vedic astrologers get much more, pinned down on exact timing of things and events. So to me, there’s a much more exactness about it. That being said, I think it’s kind of like yoga, right? You can look and say, is Ashtanga yoga the best yoga? Is Bikram yoga the best yoga? Right. Depends on who you ask, right?

Lois (11:33)

Of course.

Josh Whiteley (11:36)

And I’ve met plenty of great Western astrologers. And I think that’s the part where, for lack of a better word, spirit that works through you or how you’re able to ⁓ channel a reading is going to affect that piece of it. So you can use anything, right? Even in India, they use all kinds of different methodologies of healing. I’ve heard of yogis who chant mantras into fire. And then that ash goes to every single person. But every single person is getting a different medicine, right?

Lois (11:48)

Right.

Josh Whiteley (12:04)

There’s a piece of that connected to it, and then there’s the mathematical side, and everything else is the politics in between.

Lois (12:11)

That’s a good way of explaining it. my goodness. ⁓

Josh Whiteley (12:13)

Yeah. I hope that makes I hope it makes it any better.

Lois (12:18)

And when you’re talking about the different layers of the charts, I know there’s a a layer that you look at for relationships there is another layer for your Dharma, another layer for your career, where you can dive down really deep and correct me, this is my kind of tangential knowledge about how it works. so maybe elaborate a little bit about how that’s different from Western.

Josh Whiteley (12:42)

Do you mean, sorry, say that one more time.

Lois (12:44)

So how do you…Let’s say I say, I met this guy, I wanna know if we’re a good match. So I know in joytish you look at the relationship chart, right? You recast the chart, is that how it’s done? I have software, so I see the spouse chart, they call it.

Josh Whiteley (12:47)

I see, Great. Great. Great. So this is awesome. Right, absolutely.

And I was going to say, this is also known as the most popular question I get. And I can play like I’m psychic so let me guess, when are you falling in love or when are you getting rich?

Lois (12:49)

Right? Of course, Love and money.

Josh Whiteley (12:50)

This is what we all want to know. ⁓ Yeah. So there’s a number of ways to look at a chart to determine compatibility. ⁓ In the Jyotish system, the seventh house is the one that’s most tightly connected to spouse.

Josh Whiteley (13:28)

⁓ I translate this into modern language of serious relationships. So things are very different these days than they used to be, right? So we looked at the seventh house and you’re going to look at the sign associated with the seventh house. That will give some indications of the type of spouse you might have, the ability for things to move smoothly, and then as well as like planets that are associated with the seventh house too. Either sitting in the seventh house itself, if you have a planet like Jupiter or Venus, these like more benific and nice, lovey planets, right? There’s a better chance you’re going to have a good relationship if you have it one of the harder planets like Saturn or Mars. These are you know the malefic planets. These will cause some more difficulty in relationships. So this is how you would look at yourself as an individual and your propensity to relationship.

And then of course, like we were saying, there’s the divisional charts like the D9 Navamsa chart and that one’s very specific to relationship too So this breaks down the house into even to more refined versions So then you start looking at the quality of how you show up in a relationship and what will bring you guys together, what will be the challenge areas, what will split you apart.

You know, how will you agree about money things, how will you agree about love things, and so you can further refine that search. And then the big, and then what you want to do is get the person and you have to find your sneaky way to figure out their birth data without them realizing what you’re doing. And then you can, you can cast both charts together and look at compatibility. And that’s a very popular thing that people like to do. And this I find very helpful, not only for kind of saying, you know, are there big red flags here or little red flags or are there big green flags or little green flags? And then also if you decide to pursue this relationship, you know, every relationship has its challenges, of course, and you can look at the ways that you can work together or see what are going to be your strengths and weaknesses versus theirs or how are they going to view you and how are you going to view them? And then of course, remedial measures is always huge with Jyotish.

So, and this is getting back to the karmas, right? So, Jyotish is always going to look at remedial measures in the chart and ways to improve tough karmas or karmas you don’t want to experience as deeply. And so that’s a big thing. You know, in India, they actually often I don’t know today if they still this they probably do, but when they’re trying to marry the daughter, they’ll put the chart in the newspaper. And especially when they have these top placements, like if they have Mars, it’s called mangala Dosha in the seventh house. And so they’ll search for another chart that will negate that tough placement. So that’s one way that they’ll use to, to find matches.

Lois (15:44)

My God, that’s amazing. I should have done that….In the newspaper, wow. ⁓ Yeah, that’s wild. Anytime that I’ve been serious about someone, I’ll do a little bit of dabbling on my own…but if it gets to a more serious stage, then I go to the astrologer!

Josh (15:45)

⁓ Yeah. Yeah, it’s very common. Yeah.

Lois (16:13)

And then the other thing that you helped me with, because I’ve asked myself this question, like, am I on the right path? Like, here I am, you know, senior citizen, am I fulfilling my dharma? And I remember when, I was in finance and I decided I didn’t want to do that anymore. So I went to this famous astrologer, Chakrapani in Los Angeles. ⁓

I asked, what am I supposed to be doing? And I expected him to just say one thing, but he gave me like five different things that I could be doing, some of which I had already done. And I’m like, this isn’t really helping.

So once again, when I heard you talking about Dharma on one of your TikToks, I’m like, let’s see what Josh says. But why don’t we talk about Dharma? What is Dharma? How do you do these readings? How can you help people figure out, you know, like give them a nudge into what direction they’re most suited for?

Josh Whiteley (17:04)

Right. Really, again, probably the more important question than when am I finding love in the big scheme of spiritual practice is what is my Dharma? Dharma to me is a term that I think gets a little bit misrepresented in some ways. To me, Dharma is about the action that you’re taking moment to moment. So your Dharma can change your life. We often associate it with like, what is my career? And I do the same thing too, But it’s … it’s bigger than that.

So you’re going to have your Dharma of your, know, if you’re in a relationship, the Dharma of your relationship, the Dharma of your business, Dharma of your home life, the Dharma of your spiritual nature and Dharma of career, right? So there’s many different facets of Dharma, but Dharma to me is taking right action in the moment. And this is something that you have to really refine. It’s that little tiny little squeaky voice that’s within you that usually knows the answer, the one that you, when you make the dumb decision and later you go, I knew that from the beginning.

That to me is probably what I would associate closest with like the Dharma voice, right? Of what you’re supposed to be doing in the moment. So in one moment, it might be running a major business. And in the next moment, it might be staying home with an elderly parent to take care of them and help them through illness. You know, it will change a lot through our lives. But we can look at the chart too, to get more specific about Dharma placements.

There’s the Trikona houses, which is the first, fifth and ninth house. And these are known as the Dharma houses. So these are big areas that we can see.

Your first house, particularly about our self-development, who we’re supposed to be in this world…how we’re supposed to show up. And, the fifth house will have a lot to do with skills and karma that we brought from previous lives, like blessings and things that are helping us pursue Dharma specifically. And the ninth is more about the good karma that we’re going to get in this life, or what will help push us towards our Dharma in this lifetime.

So if somebody has something like, say, Saturn in the first house and it’s a Dharma house, a big part of their Dharma is gonna be about Saturnian experiences, which most of us don’t like to hear. But what it really is about is discipline, perseverance, overcoming obstacles, moving in a refined and reflective way without a lot of the big bells and whistles and fireworks part of life, right?

If we have something like maybe Venus there, it’s going to be a lot about love. Our Dharma is going to be very, very involved in understanding ourselves and loving ourselves deeper and helping other people see love on the higher frequencies and things like that. So our Dharma can be very different, but we look at mainly the first, fifth and ninth house, especially if you have planets clumped in there, that shows a lot of emphasis around that particular type of Dharma. So there’s a lot of ways to look at it, but very important too to know, because this will help you on your life path to get to where we’re supposed to be trying to get to.

It’s practical in a sense too, you know, as well as deeply spiritual.

Lois (19:45)

When someone has a bunch of planets in the first house or in any house, what is that? Is that good? Is it bad? It depends on the planets?

Josh Whiteley (19:54)

Yeah, it’s, neither good nor bad, but it certainly shows they’re called a stellium. When there was three, four or five planets in one house, there’s going to be a lot of karma involved in that house. And when you get that many planets, it can get very complicated because you’re going to have good ones and you’re going to have the bad ones and everything in between. And then we’re going to look at the transits through time when those certain planets are going to light up even more. So it’s not good or bad, but it certainly shows a lot of emphasis.

And when I see that in a chart, I always recommend you pay a lot of attention to the themes of that house, the themes of the sign that’s in that house, and of course any planets that fall there too, because they’ll be very prominent in your life.

Lois (20:31)

Interesting.

Yeah, I do have this Jyotish, the Parashas Light software. So Josh is always saying. “ … and if you have this planet in this house…”, and I was always pulling out …… going to the software … and pulling out my chart. And now I have it printed off and I leave it on my…kitchen table! And every time I’m listening to one of his TikToks, I’m like, oh, am I in that house? So you’re tutoring me. It’s really fun.

Okay, so back to this podcast here. So I love your explanation of Dharma. It’s not really career. It’s your path, right? But ideally like… for me, especially at this point in my life, I want my career, my means of income, to be in alignment with my Dharma.

⁓ One time I was at this meditation retreat and the monk was like, “…you can ask me anything.” So I walk up to him and I’m like, “what should I be doing with my life?” And he said, “I can’t tell you, you wouldn’t do it if I told you.”

What kind of an answer is that? Ha!

Josh Whiteley (21:33)

That’s funny.

Let it unfold the way it’s supposed to unfold. You know, I read a lot of charts and some peoples are very oriented towards one thing and they may gravitate towards that and enjoy that or they may really dislike it. But it’s still an important part of their dharma. So for instance, somebody might actually have a chart that’s very placed around spiritual practice. This is a common one I see.

They’ll have a lot of spiritual placements. So they should be doing meditation or some kind of spiritual practice and that should be probably the emphasis of their life. And then I’ll see big blocks in their relationship houses right… and they’ll still want that because we’re human right? And so they’ll say “why do I keep hitting my head into the wall and I’m trying to get in a good relationship?” But their chart, their dharma essentially is so focused around spiritual practice that’s where they need to be putting their time and effort and attention right?

Lois (22:16)

Right.

Josh Whiteley (22:30)

So the chart is almost a protective mechanism in a way. So when it gives you these hard placements and these blocks, it doesn’t want you to get entangled in those things. My spiritual teacher one time was talking about marriage in general and said, know, somebody asked like, should we get married? And she laughed and laughed. And she was like, I mean, if you want that, sure. And kind of getting at the sense of like, these are karmic entanglements ultimately, right? And we all have our attachments. It’s very human. But our chart also wants our best. So it’s going to try to push us in that direction…

Lois (22:37)

Right. Yeah.

Josh Whiteley (22:58)

…that is best for us to be going. And some people have big money placement charts. Like their dharma is about making a lot of money because they want that experience. They want to understand what it’s like to have a lot of money. So that’s a big goal for them. And we can, create a chart remedies around money making if that’s what they need to be doing. Sometimes it’s not what we want it to be. And I think that’s probably the case for a lot of us. We want kind of what we don’t have generally, right?

Lois (23:22)

The age-old truth.

Josh Whiteley (23:26)

Right.

Lois (23:26)

I was in India and I had my first Jyotish astrology reading. This gentleman told me I was going to be very wealthy, he said, “You’re going to have lot of cows, maybe even a car.” And I’m thinking, “Well, I don’t have cows, but I already have a car. So I’ve reached the pinnacle of my wealth.”

Josh Whiteley (23:49)

You gotta get yourself a cow, it sounds like.

Lois (23:51)

I know, right?

Josh Whiteley (23:53)

Yeah. ⁓

Lois (23:54)

Okay, why don’t you talk a little bit about medical astrology. So using someone’s chart, what can you find out about their health? How does it support you in working with your clients What planets are we looking at?

Josh Whiteley (24:09)

I use this quite a bit. So… and this was actually part of what got me particularly interested in Joytish… is I was seeing Ayurvedic clients at the time and this one person I was particularly stuck on and we tried all these different things and we did help, but I wasn’t satisfied. And so I had a friend of mine who was a Joytishi get the chart and she said, well look at this placement and this placement and this placement. And it just changed my perception of this case, right? And I switched the herbal formula big time.

We switched their dietary practices around big time and that was like the linchpin that changed things. So that’s was my first real interest in Jyotish as another lens to look at patients through an Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine lens as well. So I find it invaluable at times, especially when these really, you know, when I’m really stuck on a case or, you know, really difficult, complex patient, getting the chart is going to give you a lot of insight into things that might be a little less material they’re going to help.

And especially when it comes to…⁓ I call them karmic remedies. Sometimes we have these illnesses that are purely karmic in nature. You get the scans, you get an MRI, you get a CT, blood work is done, everything looks good, but you still just don’t feel good, right? Then we look at the chart and we can see this kind of through this other lens that will show us like, that’s why it’s not going to be treated well by Western medicine. May be more appropriate for Eastern medicine or neither of those are going to be good. And we need something like chanting or mantra, you know, mantras or yantras or poojas or ⁓ gemstone remedies, things like that, right?

So it just gives another angle to approach illness from. And it helps me also at the beginning of treatments because we can see the constitution of the person, like the doshas and ayurveda. We can look at their prakriti, we can look at their vikruti. We can see what transits are happening across those fields in the chart too. And we can determine, okay, we have a big, you know, ⁓ I don’t know if this is too deep to go with this, but ….

All the planets are associated with the Doshas too, right? So Mars is very Pitta planet, Saturn’s very Vata planet, Jupiter and Venus and the moon to some degree are very Kapha planets. So we can look at the influence of the planets on this person’s chart in the body as well to see, this a Kapha type disease? Is this a Vata disease? Is this Pitta disease? And then plan our herbal treatments accordingly. So it’s valuable. I use it a lot in my practice ⁓ for medical issues.

Lois (26:23)

What house is related to health? Is there a specific house?

Josh Whiteley (26:28)

The main ones…. so the first house… it’s like the Prakruti house. So this is how we would look at it for people who don’t know, Prakruti is like your basic constitution. So when you hear like, “I’m a vata person” or “I’m a pitta person”, that would be more like your Prakruti And this is your birth constitution. We see these influences through the first house.

And then your Vikruti which is more like your current health condition or small minor illnesses as seen through the sixth house. So this will also be important to look at for, you know, when it’s just… “I’ve noticed my skin is flaring up right now” or, more kind of run of the mill things trying to determine what’s happening.

But there’s other houses too, you know, sixth house is also connected to, a short-term illness. Eighth house is about long-term chronic illness. There’s a couple of different angles, but the first and the six are the primary two you look at to determine kind of the health picture of what’s happening. And I had one patient, where they were having pericarditis and they were young in their mid-thirties. And just all of a sudden had heart attack symptoms, pounding chest pain, shooting pain down the arm, all these things.

So he went to the ER, and all that. They did an echo. They did all the scans. They did a stress test, blood work. Everything was fine. I started doing acupuncture on him. They were getting better. I was giving him Ayurvedic herbs. He was getting better, but nothing was knocking it. And they couldn’t really diagnose it. They finally kind of said probably pericarditis, but they didn’t really know either.

Then I looked at the person’s chart for transits and they were having a big rahu transit, which is the North node across their six house. So I said, “Oh, well, of course, this is a rahu issue.” So we did remedies for rahu and that, you know, is, I mean, we’ve been having this for months and months, maybe four or five, six months even. So it had been going on. We started doing the rahu remedies and it went away.

Lois (28:06)

Tell us about Rahu. All I remember was Dr. Ladd used to say, Wahoo Rahu. ⁓ Maybe explain to the listeners.

Josh Whiteley (28:13)

Yeah, that’s a good one. I’ve never heard that, but I like that.

Yeah, I’m a little obsessed with the nodes, Rahu and Ketu, because they’re just so fascinating and strange and out there and just do funky things. ⁓

But the North node, so maybe we can tell a brief story about it. There is this demon in Vedic mythology, and he was trying to drink the nectar of immortality. And very quickly, the other gods discovered what was happening and chopped him in half before he could swallow the nectar, right?

So, Rahu is the head of this demon and Ketu is the tail. So this is the north and the south node, right? The north node, Rahu, is about our karmic obsessions in this lifetime. So this will show us in our chart the things that we’re going to be gravitating towards and want to experience. Rahu being Rahu though, it has no stomach to digest this information. So it’s constantly wants to take in more and eat, eat, eat. It can’t actually assimilate what it takes in. So where your north node is placed in your chart often will show these, I call them the karmic seeds, that you’ve planted that you want to experience and do. So if it’s in a house of love, it’s going to be about partnerships and chasing after a person or then the grass is always green or there’s always another one after that one, right? If it’s in a career house, you’re going to have a very, career oriented life where that’s going to be your biggest focus and you may, let go of family obligations and that’s all you care about, right? This is what Rahu does to us.

It’s a bit of a magician though, because it can show us great things that we have not thought about consciously. They sort of come to us through the ethers, but it also can trick us. I compare it lot to illicit substances and drugs and you can get that high from it and it can be really fun and good. And you may think you’re ascending and doing these big things. And then at one point, some point you hit your head in the wall and you go, what was I thinking, why was I doing that? So you have to be very careful with Rahu. It’s wahoo, Rahu. I love that. I love that.

It’ll take you on a roller coaster ride for better or worse and you got to determine when you’re on the roller coaster going in good directions and when you’re not going the good direction. So it’s a tricky one. It’s a very, tricky.

Lois (30:03)

Yeah. And so what’s the Ketu then?

Josh Whiteley (30:11)

Yep. Ketu, the South Node. So this has a lot more to do with past life experiences. It’s a planet of moksha and spiritual liberation, so it’s very powerful in good ways too. What it does though is brings in a lot more unconscious things from past lives that we may not be fully aware of. So if this lands in a house, it’s very, you know, like the 12th house or something like that, which is a very spiritually oriented house, we’ll probably have been a yogi in a past life. We’ll probably have lived in the caves and had a lot of those experiences and done that type of work.

If it falls in our 10th house of career or something like that, this lifetime, we may not care too much about career. We may be very disconnected from that and not see a lot of importance because we’ve done that before. We’ve had that experience. So we’re kind of in a sense running the opposite direction, right? But there’ll be these natural gifts that come with it too. So it’s a lot like Rahu that there’s a lot of blessings that come from it and a lot of difficulty and pain and things that will come from it.

It also tends to cut things out of our material life in this world. So if it falls, like I see it a lot when it falls in the fourth house, people have very difficult relationships with their mother, you know, either complete separation, we haven’t talked in 20 years or just a very distant, connection and you won’t really fully understand why. It may not be clear, obvious, like, I didn’t do anything. Like it’s not these conscious things. It’s very unconscious and it often has to do with past life, karmas and things like that. So it’s a tricky one too. And can be difficult.

Lois (31:27)

Wow. Do you do readings on past life karmas? Does anyone ever ask you that?

Josh Whiteley (31:34)

Yeah, I often through the lens of using the nodes. Those I think are the most effective way. You look at where it’s placed in the chart. Some of the divisional charts also can get into that too. So yeah, absolutely. And, I’m a little bit careful with it. I think it can be really helpful in some ways. And this is just my spiritual teacher’s thoughts on this. She’s also often said you don’t want to necessarily go too deep into past life because you can get a little bit hung up on those stories too.

So it’s more important to be in the present, live this life and do the Dharma and Karma of this life. So it’s a lot of fun and I would be lying if I said I didn’t ever have it done on myself, but it’s something to be very mindful of how you approach it too.

Lois (32:13)

… How often are you looking at your own chart?

Josh Whiteley (32:16)

⁓ you know, I’m usually very aware of the transits happening in the sky and I know my chart so well. I knew the same thing. I think there’s something about the prana that you give towards something can be a good thing or a draining thing. And I, I think it’s good to a certain degree to live your life. Also, if you overthink or over let the chart dictate your life or give your prana to that chart completely, you lose your own prana and your own sense of identity in some degree too.

So I try to walk that line. I mean, I’m always curious and I’m always wanting to, you know, when I know,  Saturn goes into Pisces, I know where that is on my chart. I know what’s happening and I’m going to look at that or if something difficult is going on life, I’ll look at my chart. But I try to give it a break and let it rest and regenerate itself too.

Lois (32:58)

Do you encourage people to get their chart done once a year though, to kind of get a map for like a checkup, a check-in?

Josh Whiteley (33:03)

I think it’s really good. Yeah, we’ll tune up. Yeah. Yeah. I think it’s great to do at least once a year because we can always look at the transits happening. The dashas, which are time cycles too, are very important in Vedic astrology. So we can look and see what’s coming up around the bend.

So once a year is great. I have some people do a few times a year, or if there’s some big major life decision, you know, if you’re like, do I go this fork in the road or this fork on the road or, you know, relationships falling apart, what’s happening? Can you help?

Lois (33:29)

Right.

Josh Whiteley (33:29)

You know, like there’s major events. Yes. And then once a year, I think is very sufficient. That’s great.

Lois (33:33)

Can you talk about the dashas? Because I have this theory that people in these long-term relationships and going through different stages of planetary influence. And maybe that’s what’s contributing to some turmoil in the relationship. Like, OK, now someone’s in the Mars dasha. Now they’re getting influenced by all this fiery energy… how does that impact the relationship? And does that bode well for a long-term relationship or is that part of the calculations they do to determine who’s a good match?

Josh Whiteley (34:08)

Yeah, yeah, there’s a bunch of rabbit holes you can go down with it, but the Dasha changes are huge in Vedic astrology. This is like the primary thing we look at for timing of events. And I think this again is probably one of the bigger strengths that I like about Jyotish is the Dasha system is just so powerful. But in regards to relationships, absolutely.

If one person’s in a Saturn Dasha and somebody else is in a Jupiter Dasha, you’re going to be having very different overarching kind of energies coming, right? So Saturn is going to be very serious, even a little cold, a little distant and removed. It’s a tough Dasha in that way.

Jupiter is much more expansive and bright and chipper and cheery, right? So these are going to bring different energies at different times to people in relationship. They say you should in theory try to be in the same Dasha cycle as your partner is always a good sign. there’s a number of, can’t remember, but there’s some famous celebrity matches and stuff that I did a workshop one time and they were showing like, look, they both started their

Jupiter, dasha at the same, right about the same time. So they’re in the same cycle and that’s a very good sign of compatibility too. And it changes your temperament too, right? Mars very fiery, passionate. It’s great when it’s great. It’s also going to be very combative or conflictive and cause difficulty in the relationship. So that’s huge. It plays a big part.

Lois (35:03)

Yeah. So I remember going through my Saturn Dasha forever, it felt like! And part of it was when I was in the Ayurveda school. And I was so serious and I’m kind of serious anyways. I have a lot of Saturn influence in my chart. And then someone said, ⁓ you’re doing your, Saturn return. Someone called it Sadi Sati. Do you wanna talk about that a little bit?

Josh Whiteley (35:41)

Yeah, that’s a big one. ⁓

Lois (35:44)

And then they said I was going through it again like three years later. Like, how does that happen? Yeah, and explain Saturn for people that don’t understand The fun of Saturn.

Josh Whiteley (35:50)

He sticks around. He does. Yeah, Saturn is known as Shani or Lord Shani. And Shani, I’ve always called the karmic bill collector. So he’s the one who shows up to collect on the karmas that you owe in this lifetime. So most of us aren’t very happy when the bill comes in the mail. We like the credit card swiping and getting the things, but when that bill comes, it’s not usually very fun. So that’s what he shows up for. ⁓

You know, he gets a very bad rap, but ultimately he wants us to address reality for what it is and be present for reality because we can get carried away and lost in our karmas and we’ll lose track of that. So this has to do with Dharma again too, right? So if we’re getting really excited and having this wild life and running around and doing all these things, but we’re supposed to be, you we have kids at home or there’s bills to be paid and we’re not doing that, then he’s going to show us the hard way if we don’t learn the lesson that you need to address these realities of life.

In a lot of ways, he’s the ultimate blessing because he wants what’s best for us too. He just is like the tough love. He’s a stern, I always say like a stern grandfather is how I view him. And he’s going to tell you what to do and usually know he’s right. And then we’d go, no, I don’t want to. And then we ultimately come back around. But ⁓

Josh Whiteley (37:13)

So I went through a big Saturn transit years ago. I was in a really hard, nasty part of my life. And I went to India and an astrologer had told me, he said, as soon as this transit’s over, you’re going to be thankful for this experience. And I just went, ⁓ no, God, no way. What are you, you know, in my head, of course, and I was like, no way, there’s no way, this is horrible. And now I look back and I was like, yeah, that needed to happen. Like that experience needed to happen because I was overly attached to the situation and how I was trying to make things be that were not actually ultimately good. And I wasn’t actually doing the right thing.

So Saturn kind of rips you away from that and sends you down the path you should be going on. So the more you cling, the more you hold on, the tighter you kick and scream about it, the harder the rip is going to be. If you can see it for what it is and accept it and say, it’s just this time, it’s a much smoother transition. But it’s one you always look back on if you do the work and are grateful for because it ultimately has your best interest in mind.

That’s what he’s there for. Like a stern grandfather, right?

Lois (38:10)

Mm-hmm, that’s great. Yeah, I always heard it as the taskmaster teaching you lessons.

Josh Whiteley (38:14)

Yeah, totally. Absolutely, absolutely.

Lois (38:19)

⁓ Okay, so we also talked about maybe you doing a quick chart reading of a public figure. Do you want to do something like that?

Josh Whiteley (38:28)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see if I can share.

Okay, so here we’re doing an example chart of David Bowie who most of us probably know. But the reason I wanted to show his chart is just because it’s particularly interesting from a medical astrology perspective.

So he was also somebody I knew a little bit of his life story. I mean, not personally knew, him but you know, as a fan.⁓ but going from a medical perspective, we can look at his first house here, which is the diamond in the top middle, where it says AS – that’s his ascendant.

And he’s got the number 10 there. And that’s just the sign of Capricorn, right? So Capricorn is his ascendant. And like we said earlier, this is like the Prakruti house or his constitutional house in Ayurveda. And when you have Capricorn on the Ascendant that’s a very Kapha nature in general and a very stable nature.

Just knowing him, his frame, he’s got that thin but very solid kind of bone structure too and very prominent cheekbones and very Capricorn nature to him. And I think from a medical perspective, I think is the best thing he’s got going on his chart because… It gives a lot of stability to kind of beat yourself up, which he was a rock star for many years, right?

Long history of drug and alcohol abuse and staying up late and sex and all the things, right? He’s doing all the things that in Ayurveda we say these are depleting to the Constitution. But when you have a strong base Constitution, you’re able to get away with things a little bit longer than some of us. So that was what really I think works out for him the most.

When you have that Capricorn nature there and also gives that Saturnian quality of ⁓ perseverance and discipline to his art and to his music and to his life. So he’s coming from a very good base.

Now I’m going to show that he’s got some pretty heavy health things in his chart too. So this is where reality or that Saturn piece comes to catch up with him. So if he would have been much more disciplined through his life about his health, he would have lived a much longer life. But because he’s got some big afflictions in his chart for his health stuff, it finally just got the best of him.

So I’ll show you, ⁓ he’s got, this is another interesting piece in his second house, which is the little triangle next to it that has a number 11 in it. That’s the house of the voice, right? And even substances and foods we take in our mouth, but also ruled by Aquarius there. And when your second house of your voice is ruled by Aquarius, this usually speaks towards bigger social themes, ⁓ bigger understandings beyond just the moment, right? So he crossed multi-generations. He was you know, able to recreate and reinvent himself, you know, through the decades, which is a very rare thing. You know, some musicians are big for just a couple of years and then they kind of become the old story and the old guard. And he was able to keep moving through, the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, and even into the two thousands and still being very relevant. So that is his strength with his Aquarius there in his second house. ⁓ Both these houses are ruled by Saturn, right?

So that sends Saturn down to his seventh house, which is the one right below it. He’s got Saturn retrograde and moon there. And this combination in the seventh house is going to be connected to a few things, but particularly we can look at this in relationship to his career. ⁓ Again, the Saturn being retrograde is going to give a lot of ⁓ strength to his voice and a lot of depth to his voice. And that’s that part of David Bowie that has that deep, baritone kind of voice to him. But he’s also got the moon there, right? And the moon is much more emotional and much more. It goes through waves and waxes and wanes. So that combination gives that ability for him to transform his voice and to tap into emotion on a very deep level while also being very serious. So it’s a very ⁓ one of a kind of peculiar sort of combination he’s got there.

Also, the seventh house… is about relationships. So these are big, big themes for him in his life. And this is both his romantic relationships, marriages, and also business partnerships, musician partnerships, and from what we know of him, he had a marriage earlier in his life, but fraught with cheating and I think even an open relationship.

So there was a lot of ⁓ lack of connectivity on a permanent basis. And that’s where this Saturn moon piece will play out for that, right? So this will cause deep emotional feeling and then the Saturn will kind of pull back and get very cold and separate and pull away.

It creates a lot of turbulence really in that, and especially the first marriage when you have that sitting there. ⁓ That plays a big factor. And also, even with his musicians that he played with… I know he was ⁓ known to work with people very intensely and then just drop them and move on to and change the band and get brand new people. And so there’s a lot of this, churning of the moon in Saturn and creating a lot of, you know, honestly, emotional havoc and a lot of his ⁓ emotional. ⁓turmoil around drug use and things like that are going to be shown by this moon and Saturn combination in the seventh house.

So I think a lot of the drugging and the partying and the rock starring, some of that’s probably just because when you get that level of fame, it tends to grab at you. But a lot of that is going to come down to its own emotional issues and unhappiness and emotional fluctuation and depressions and things like that. It’s a way to medicate, right? So that’s a big piece of his health picture. ⁓

Lois (43:34)

Right.

Josh Whiteley (43:37)

I was looking up here, so this is his 12th house at the top with the number 9 in it where he has Sun, Mars, and Mercury. In medical astrology, the 12th house is connected to the eye and he’s very famous for having one pupil that’s big. I think he got punched in the eye when he was in high school or something like that. So he had this one eye that was different than the other one. It had this big, it was a different color and had a big pupil to it. So, one of his famous idiosyncrasies. But you look at the 12th house at the left eye and he’s got the Sun there. And when the sun’s in the 12th house, this is a depletion of energy and vitality in general, but particularly connected to the left eye in this case.

And Mars is the planet of injuries, ⁓ trauma, surgeries, things like that. Right? So he’s got this combination in his 12th house. It’s going to be particularly affecting, you know, a high likelihood for injury to the eye. So he’s got that there. And this also plays into, you know, he died when he was 70. So he wasn’t young, but he certainly could have lived a much longer life. Right.

Lois (44:33)

Yeah.

Josh Whiteley (44:33)

The sun is the planet of our overall vitality and strength and our prana and our ability to keep moving through life in a healthy way. When the sun is in the 12th house of death and depletion and taking of our energy, there’s going to be this ⁓ bathtub drain open kind of idea with him, right? Like that prana is going to be just draining, draining, draining. So again, if he would have spent more time focused on his health, that wouldn’t have been such an issue. ⁓

Lois (44:50)

Mmm. Hmm.

Josh Whiteley (45:01)

The other big thing he’s got going…  is his fifth house … down here with the number two in it. He’s got Rahu that we were just talking about there. And Rahu in the fifth house is great in a lot of ways because the fifth house is a house of creativity, art, music, ⁓ culture, all these kinds of things are all very focused in the fifth house. So when you have your karmic seeds there, like your Rahu, that’s gonna be a big emphasis of your life path and where you’re just gonna excel in…pull in things from the ethers that nobody else can see and reinvent yourself in ways nobody else could imagine and change your music style 180 and still be successful, right?

That’s the strength of Rahu. That’s what allows him to do what he did through his life. Fifth house is also of course a house of compulsion and obsession and gambling and risk-taking and not so Sattvic behaviors. So when Rahu goes there and Rahu is certainly not a Sattvic planet, that’s where this combination comes into, illicit sex and drug use and partying and, you know, taking big risks. And so that’s also a part of who he is and the karmic seeds he was wanting to sow in this lifetime. ⁓

We can also see that, so the number two is represented by Venus, the planet Venus. Venus goes across to his 11th house with Ketu. I’m sorry, I wish you could see my pointer, but where the number eight is, is Ketu and Venus.

Venus is the planet of sensuality, of art, of music, of beauty, all these kinds of ideas. And Ketu, the south node, like we said, tends to take things away or reinvent and change or kind of alter in some major way. So this was his… he was very famous for his androgynous appearance. You know, nobody knew, is he straight? Is he gay? Is he this? Is he that? Boy, is he a girl? He really played a lot with that, like with the conventional ideas of beauty.

Lois (46:38)

Right. Yeah.

Josh Whiteley (46:49)

…and in masculine and feminine roles, right? And that is Venus ⁓ it’s in Scorpio, there’s a lot of…stories and you never know what ones are the stories… but about his sex life and all these kinds of things, right? They were really big prominent themes of what is he doing and who is he? And that’s his Venus Ketu in the 11th house.

Lois (47:09)

Wow.

Josh Whiteley (47:11)

Yeah, so big, big themes there, right, that are involved around health stuff. And then we can also look at his Dasha. And that’s, let’s see, can you, on the Vimshottari can you just go back to 2016?

Lois (47:24)

⁓ yeah, let me go over to there…

Josh Whiteley (47:26)

You’ll just scroll back. Okay, perfect, perfect.

So this is what we were talking about earlier, the dashas, right? Vimshottari it’s the same thing, Vimshotarri dashas. These are about the time cycles of life. So when we look at where he was at the time of his death, we can see he died on January 8th of 2016. So if we look at his dasha cycle, he was right in a Mars-Rahu dasha.

Right. So he was in a Mars major period with the Rahus sub-dasha. That means his Mars and Rahu are very activated in his chart. Rahu is the planet we talked about with drugs and pushing your luck and that kind of stuff. And Mars is a big indicator of death and injury and accident and illness and things like that too. Right. So those two planets are activated. His 12th house with Mars is activated and his fifth house with the Rahu is activated. The fifth house is also the house of the liver, the pancreas… those organs.

He died of liver cancer. So we know that that was a big period. Mars is accidental injuries and that’s when it finally got him is when he went through that Dasha transit. And this is what I mean with Jyotish where you look at these very precise, you can even refine the timing further than that, but you can see that, of course it’s going to catch up with him at that point. I just did a little research this morning, but I checked to see, and it sounds like he was initially diagnosed in like the summer 2014. So he was in a moon sun Dasha.

That already he’s got his moon and Saturn, that’s an affliction together. And then the sun is in the 12th house. This is the draining of vitality, like we said, right? So that’s the beginning of process of his health starting to decline. And then once he got to June, 2015, he goes right into his Mars dasha, which Mars is a rocket ship on things, right? Like it really fires up. So it’s going to start speeding up the process more, probably a lot more pain, probably a lot more intensive, you know, treatment and attempts to surgically manage these things.

Lois (48:58)

Wow.

Josh Whiteley (49:16)

And then once you get to the Mars, Rahu Dasha, Rahu is just gonna is like wind on the sails of a rocket ship, you know, so it’s just gonna speed it up even more. And Rahu ultimately is our Karmas, right? So Karma just came back around for him at that period. It was like, you know, you lived a long life of abusing in your body and having a good time, but it’s time for those karmic seeds to come back around and get you, So that’s, that’s how you’d use the Dasha system and alignment with the chart to look at.

A lot of people call me when they have surgeries coming up or big health scares and trying to determine stuff. So we can do remedies for that. if you need surgery, when to get surgery and just looking at outcomes. But he went into a really tough cycle on top of a tough health spell in his chart. ⁓

Lois (49:55)

And what would you have done? What would you have said to David Bowie if he came to you in 2014 with this diagnosis? Is it too late at that point or?

Josh Whiteley (50:02)

I mean, at that point, it’s kind of like Ayurveda, right? Like we do best when we’re doing preventative medicine. We understand the doshas and the doshic fluctuations early, that’s when we address the things, right? Once we get to the point of later down the samprapti chain, sometimes it’s too late. Liver cancer is a really tough one. Once you get there, it’s tough to turn that ship around.

Lois (50:10)

Right, right, sure.

Josh Whiteley (50:27)

I would probably have tried some Poojas and every remedy under the sun, but ultimately he needed to start this process, you know, 30, 40 years ago. I know he also had a history of heart attacks and things, you know, and that again points to his vitality, you know, just he’s got a rough health chart. ⁓ I didn’t say this, but his sixth house, which where the three is and his eighth house are about illnesses. Both the ruling planets are in the 12th house too, right? So it’s just more emphasis on acute disease and chronic disease.

And then we got our Rahu speeding up the process with fun drugs and drink and all that stuff. And it’s just, you know, he’s destined for this because he…

Lois (50:59)

Did he go sober at some point later in life or not?

Josh Whiteley (51:03)

You know, I don’t know, to be honest. I don’t know. I know he was a chain smoker. You know, from what I know, yeah, his second marriage, which you’d see from a different house, too, anyway, was a much sounds like a much better. I mean, he was married for the last 10 or 12 years and seemed to have a much more clean lifestyle. I know he was off of drugs, at least. I don’t know that he was completely sober or not, but, and that’s thing with Saturn. It matures over time, especially so once you get into your 50s and 60s and you tend to learn the Saturn lesson and you’ve probably learned it the hard way. So you say, okay, okay, time to get it together, you know.

Lois (51:37)

Yeah. Wow. So he just needed Ayurveda when he was 30.

Josh Whiteley (51:41)

He should have started those remedies. Yeah. Really early on and done a lot of nervous system, ⁓ you know, maintenance and, know, probably Ashwagandha Bala and Abhyangas and, know, a lot of these like more, ⁓ Vata reducing, ⁓ herbal formulations would have been great for him.

Lois (51:57)

Yeah, that’s amazing. I’m just going to close this. Oh, I stopped sharing. So that was super, super interesting!

Tell us a little bit about how people can get in touch with you and if they want to come and have a Jyotish medical astrological reading or a consultation. What does that involve? What does that look like?

Josh Whiteley (52:00)

Yeah. So I, what’s nice with modern technology is that we can do this all online. So I do a lot of zoom consults from people from all over and you can see my website is rupaveda.com r-u-p-a-v-e-d-a.com. I’m on all the social media stuff too. And it’s rupa.veda. If you just type in rupaveda or Josh Whiteley, you can probably find me pretty easy, but that’s the best way to get in touch. And then we just set up a consultation and I usually have people send me if there’s a few major themes they’re wondering about.

If there’s something you specifically want to deep dive in and just send me those topics and we can do a chart overview as well. ⁓ You know, medical stuff, health stuff is always a fun thing for me to do, but even just life path trajectory, Dharma, all those kinds of things are always very helpful. So just get a hold of me and we’ll set up a time and do a consult.

Lois (53:07)

Alright, that sounds awesome. So I’ll link to your website. You have two websites, so maybe do you want to talk about the other one? It’s a nonprofit? Tell us a little bit about that one because that’s cool too.

Josh Whiteley (53:14)

I do, I do. Yeah, so I’m a chronic student,

I’m also practicing Chinese medicine and acupuncture too. So if you, chance, are in Tucson or coming through Tucson, you can also come see me for acupuncture and Chinese medicine.

Lois (53:31)

Okay, very good. ⁓ Okay, so I’ll link to all those. Give the social media handles, the websites, the email, and you can please reach out to Josh if you want to improve your health and your wellness. Namaste.

 

 

 

 

 



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